Listen To Your Elders http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad The mind of a great-grandfather Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:40:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 en 1.0 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad ai-development australia-day australian-constitution editorial-rubbish education euthanasia freedom-of-speech history justice liberty life-death political population-growth religions the-great-injustice-of-20th-century uncategorized australian-historyHistory http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=13 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=13 when wil politician]]> 13 0000-00-00 00:00:00 0000-00-00 00:00:00 closed open draft 0 0 post comments on http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=27 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=27 27 2008-06-18 03:01:39 0000-00-00 00:00:00 closed open draft 0 0 post _edit_lock 1213786899 _edit_last 1 Carbon emissions trading system http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=29 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=29 29 2008-07-04 03:12:33 0000-00-00 00:00:00 closed open draft 0 0 post _edit_lock 1215169953 _edit_last 1 Cost of carbon emmissions http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=30 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=30 30 2008-07-04 03:17:34 0000-00-00 00:00:00 closed open draft 0 0 post _edit_lock 1260441391 _edit_last 1 About http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/about/ Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:08:03 +0000 2 2006-03-14 11:08:03 2006-03-14 19:08:03 closed open about publish 0 0 page _jt_page_template default introduction http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2006/11/15/introduction/ Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:30:17 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=3 3 2006-11-15 20:30:17 2006-11-16 04:30:17 closed open introduction publish 0 0 post 2 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 203.26.16.68 2006-11-15 22:02:21 2006-11-16 06:02:21 1 0 0 3 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 203.26.16.68 2006-11-15 22:03:14 2006-11-16 06:03:14 1 0 0 4 andrew.fletcher@cea.com.au 203.26.16.68 2006-11-16 14:44:58 2006-11-16 22:44:58 1 0 0 5 geoff.patch@cea.com.au 203.26.16.68 2006-11-16 16:30:56 2006-11-17 00:30:56 1 0 0 6 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 124.184.227.158 2006-11-18 03:56:56 2006-11-18 11:56:56 1 0 1 7 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 124.184.11.162 2006-11-21 00:57:48 2006-11-21 08:57:48 1 0 1 8 elebettini@gmail.com 150.203.227.90 2006-11-22 17:23:48 2006-11-23 01:23:48 1 0 0 9 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 124.184.216.71 2006-11-27 01:20:03 2006-11-27 09:20:03 1 0 1 10 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 124.184.216.71 2006-11-29 02:22:20 2006-11-29 10:22:20 1 0 1 political history 1930 to 1945 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2006/11/27/political-history-1930-to-1945/ Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:53:27 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=4 4 2006-11-27 01:53:27 2006-11-27 09:53:27 closed open political-history-1930-to-1945 publish 0 0 post citizenship tests http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2006/12/11/citizenship-tests/ Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:00:44 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=5 5 2006-12-11 21:00:44 2006-12-12 05:00:44 closed open citizenship-tests publish 0 0 post Denial of the Presumption of Innocence http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2006/12/11/denial-of-the-presumption-of-innocence/ Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:12:08 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=6 6 2006-12-11 22:12:08 2006-12-12 06:12:08 closed open denial-of-the-presumption-of-innocence publish 0 0 post 11 Klohunt@gmail.com 67.189.144.191 2006-12-28 08:36:26 2006-12-28 16:36:26 1 0 0 12 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 124.184.216.71 2007-01-02 15:04:38 2007-01-02 23:04:38 1 0 1 13 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 124.184.216.71 2007-01-13 02:32:23 2007-01-13 10:32:23 1 0 1 industrial relations http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/01/16/industrial-relations/ Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:38:34 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=7 7 2007-01-16 01:38:34 2007-01-16 09:38:34 closed open industrial-relations publish 0 0 post 14 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://www.athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 58.106.146.11 2007-01-21 01:08:55 2007-01-21 09:08:55 1 0 0 why do we finance private education from the public purse? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/01/16/why-do-we-finance-private-education-from-the-public-purse/ Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:13:42 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=8 8 2007-01-16 02:13:42 2007-01-16 10:13:42 closed open why-do-we-finance-private-education-from-the-public-purse publish 0 0 post 86 http://gdnbekmezdgmhir.com 81.177.26.20 2007-06-20 08:16:04 2007-06-20 16:16:04 Green... I guess it's ok...]]> 1 trackback 0 0 87 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com 124.183.63.18 2007-06-25 02:49:01 2007-06-25 10:49:01 1 0 0 australia day http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/01/21/australia-day/ Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:01:17 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=9 9 2007-01-21 21:01:17 2007-01-22 05:01:17 closed open australia-day publish 0 0 post Where is the law? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/02/03/httpwwwsmhcomaunewsworldus-announces-new-hicks-charges200702031169919567728htmlpage3/ Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:50:26 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=10 This news is frightening in that it seems to indicate that Howard and Bush have no interest in maintaining the law and just want to charge these people in Guantanamo Bay with something and have a life sentence brought down as an end to these cases. There is not even a pretence of there being any presumption of innocence until found guilty nor any relationship to any recognised law covering the particular circumstances. Infact every impedement seems to have been put in the way of the defence to ensure that it can't obtain a fair trial. I'm sure that future generations of both Americans and Australians will feel nothing but shame for the way in which our two governments have dealt with these matters.]]> 10 2007-02-03 02:50:26 2007-02-03 10:50:26 closed open httpwwwsmhcomaunewsworldus-announces-new-hicks-charges200702031169919567728htmlpage3 publish 0 0 post 15 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 203.26.16.67 2007-02-06 21:23:06 2007-02-07 05:23:06 1 0 0 16 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 203.26.16.67 2007-02-06 21:26:53 2007-02-07 05:26:53 1 0 0 Hicks needs a fair process http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/02/08/hicks-needs-a-fair-process/ Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:39:16 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=11 How can Howard talk about Hicks having a fair process when he still is letting it be known that he considers Hicks guilty even now before he has been officially charged. For Hicks to have a fair trial it is first necessary for any such trial to be held in a proper court where the laws and rules of law are respected and apply to all persons. This court that Howard is prepared to accept is a court set up specifically to find Hicks, and the others being held, guilty of something and then being sentenced to life imprisonment. It has nothing to do with justice as recognised in any of the civilized countries. Hicks may well have trained in terrorism etc but if the civilized world is to protect it's standards of justice and libery, it is essential to ensure that Hicks is, firstly charged with a proper crime, and then to ensure that he is given a fair trial in a properly constituted court of law. I feel that there is more at stake here than Hicks innocence or guilt, at stake is the whole credibility of the legal systems of the USA and Australia. To date the outlook is pretty sad for the future of our justice systems.]]> 11 2007-02-08 18:39:16 2007-02-09 02:39:16 closed open hicks-needs-a-fair-process publish 0 0 post Keep our country for ourselves http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/02/16/httpwwwsmhcomaunewsnationalwhy-i-changed-my-mind-on-us-bases-garrett200702161171405436853html/ Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:04:01 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=12 Whether Peter Garrett changed his mind is not the issue, the issue is why do our Australian politicians want to cede parts of our nation to foreign countries? We should adopt the US constitution requirement that bans any state or the federal government ceding any part of the US to another country. We should learn from history and understand that there would not be too many Cubans that think that it was a good idea to let the US have soveriegn power over so much of their country. It is obvious that the US isn't using their control to advance the welfare or dignity of the Cuban population today. Wake up Australians, keep our country for ourselves!]]> 12 2007-02-16 02:04:01 2007-02-16 10:04:01 closed open httpwwwsmhcomaunewsnationalwhy-i-changed-my-mind-on-us-bases-garrett200702161171405436853html publish 0 0 post 17 sja@marsupialmusic.net http://marsupialmusic.net/stu/ 149.135.79.77 2007-02-16 04:25:47 2007-02-16 12:25:47 1 0 0 Training future foes! http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/02/19/training-future-foes/ Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:44:48 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=14 When will politicians realise that they train forces of other countries at their peril. Back in the 30's the British navy trained and help build the Japanese navy. The CIA trained and built up the forces of al Qaeda and the Taliban. I wonder if the training of the Iraq armed forces will have the same successful outcome as did these other examples of stupidity? Why would a country spend all that time and money and young lives to defeat the armed forces of another country only to then build up the forces of the defeated country? Only a politician could see the reasoning behind such a farce. If they really had the interests of the Iraqis at heart they firstly wouldn't have attacked them and now they have done the dirty deed they should spend their money trying to reestablish the infrastructure of Iraq. The Iraqis are probably fed up with the fighting and killing and would rather have an honest and just system of law and law enforcement which doesn't mean having armed troops running around shooting and kicking in doors etc. It's about time that the world admitted that Iraq is in civil war and the only people that can settle that is the Iraqis themselves and it will most likely follow the pattern of other civil wars and involve a lot of blood letting and suffering before the leaders come to their senses. The presence of foreign troops would be like a red rag to a bull and they will always be to blame for the trouble and will accomplish nothing.]]> 14 2007-02-19 02:44:48 2007-02-19 10:44:48 closed open training-future-foes publish 0 0 post incentive payments for teachers or no funding? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/02/21/incentive-payments-for-teachers-or-no-funding/ Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:42:28 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=15 they all had the same level of teachers and so the different level of attainment wasn't due so much to the teacher's skills as it was to the students desire for success and the drive and encouragement obtained from the parents. If I look at the students in any one class that my offspring attended, though they all had the same teacher at any one time they didn't all obtain the same academic levels. So in any one class, if I look back, there are students that ended up ranging from doctors, teachers, engineers, etc down to in some less fortunate cases, criminals. Which level obtained do we reward the teacher for? It seems to me that it would be more appropriate to grade the parents of students, this is where the motivation springs from. Nowdays parents seem to want the teachers to train the children in self discipline, morality, social responsibility etc, and also to have their little Johnny or Mary end up as top scholars. It is not a viable proposition, our teachers should be able to teach their students to think for themselves and learn the subjects set. The other things are for the parents to teach outside the school gates. If we had more parents that instead of buying boats and other luxuries (supposedly for the children but really to satisfy their own egos) that would sit down for only a half hour or so a night with their children and try to teach manners etc as well as to help with their home work, then we may have a better education system. As for the threat to cut off finances if the state school teachers don't comply with this arrogant education minister's edict, she should realise that the money she is talking about is our money and we have paid it in not for her to obtain political advantage but to finance a decent education system. If she has a logical argument it should more likely follow the line of testing all future parents for their suitability and perhaps mark them out of 100 and adjust their income accordingly!]]> 15 2007-02-21 02:42:28 2007-02-21 10:42:28 closed open incentive-payments-for-teachers-or-no-funding publish 0 0 post 19 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 58.106.147.215 2007-02-28 02:36:57 2007-02-28 10:36:57 1 0 0 109 cawasyday@lipetsk.in 64.56.67.95 2007-10-08 16:34:52 2007-10-09 00:34:52 1 0 0 Hicks inevitable sentence and time served in Australia http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/02/23/hicks-enevitable-sentence-and-time-served-in-australia/ Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:48:53 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=16 the credibility of the Atorney General. Mr Rudd responded "he would take advice from the attorney-general's department. "That's the proper thing to do and that is precisely how I would act," ". A good answer but it has one shortcoming as observed by Mr Howard. Mr Howard noted that "the response was not good enough.", and I must agree with him. If Rudd is faced with an Attorney General as ignorant of the Australian law and the application of the presumption of innocence and correct gathering of evidence, as Mr Howard has, then Mr Rudd's cause is lost. This farce has gone on long enough, Hicks is doomed to get a Life Sentence, even if the US has to eventually charge him with jay walking, so why can't the Australian people start to enact the much vaunted " Australian Mateship " and act to protect a fellow citizen from a great injustice and have him returned to face a fair trial here where the rule of law applys, we hope.]]> 16 2007-02-23 01:48:53 2007-02-23 09:48:53 closed open hicks-enevitable-sentence-and-time-served-in-australia publish 0 0 post what use is an Australian Passport? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/02/26/what-use-is-an-australian-passport/ Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:22:49 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=17 Solicitor-General David Bennett, QC, told the court a general obligation for the Federal Government to protect citizens abroad "is simply something that the law has never recognised". This seems a strange claim to make since we Australians have been paying big bucks to obtain Australian Passports for our security when travelling abroad, why if our Government has no obligation to afford us protection from wrongfull incarceration or other infringements of our safety It appears to me, that we should not only have stayed with a foreign head of state but have also returned to being part of the British Empire. At least with a British Passport, one has some protection when travelling as is proved by the fact that there are no British detainees in Guantanamo Bay]]> 17 2007-02-26 03:22:49 2007-02-26 11:22:49 closed open what-use-is-an-australian-passport publish 0 0 post Hicksville by Ackerman http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/03/09/hicksville-by-ackerman/ Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:28:18 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/03/09/hicksville-by-ackerman/ Ackerman stating that David Hicks is guilty of all sorts of heinous crimes, however, at that time Hicks hadn't been even charged with any crime so how he could be judged guilty and of what is beyond me. Piers also likened the trial of Hicks to the trials of Nazi war criminals after the 2nd world war, this if of course even more stupid a claim. I am old enough to have been part of the Second World War and if Piers wants to see the difference between the Hicks trial and the war trials he should look at records of Belsen and other concentration camps, there is no need there to torture witnesses to talk up and the evidence of the crime is plain to see. Piers should also note that it wasn't the victims of the concentration camps that were on trial but the prison guards and camp commanders. A similar trial should be arranged for the Guantanamo Bay staff, I'm sure that they weren't tucking Hicks in every night for the past 5 years. Undoubtedly, Hicks was silly as a young man but there is no hard evidence that he actually got to even fire a shot in anger and definitely no evidence that he killed anyone during his stay in the war zone. None of these things are really the nub of the matter, the whole point is that Hicks hasn't been represented as an Australian citizen by the Howard government, even though Howard, Ruddock and Downer have all appeared in public and said that Hicks can't be brought home to face trial because he has committed no crime!! If these government people say Hicks has done no crime, how did Piers come up with his guilty verdict? I want to see us return to a sovereign country where we maintain our codes of justice and fair play even in the face of a strong ally. A good friend isn't as Howard seems to think, a party the always gives an answer that they think the other party wants to hear. A really good friend is one that gives an honest opinion regardless as to it's popularity.]]> 18 2007-03-09 05:28:18 2007-03-09 13:28:18 closed open hicksville-by-ackerman publish 0 0 post In war is the enemy a criminal or just an enemy? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/03/24/in-war-is-the-enemy-a-criminal-or-just-an-enemy/ Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:23:31 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/03/24/in-war-is-the-enemy-a-criminal-or-just-an-enemy/ is to be charged with opposing the US army in Afghanistan, is it now a crime in war to fight for a cause which opposes US government's aggressive intentions? What about all the Germans, Italians, Vietnamese, Koreans, etc that have fought against the US army, could the US now rope them in and confine them in a concentration camp, like Guantanamo Bay and try them for daring to oppose the US army? It is obvious that the US under the direction of Bush is only interested in finding Hicks guilty of something, just to make it appear that the US is superior to all and needs to pay no heed to international law or justice. Unfortunately, we have a gutless government which is only interested in dancing to Bush's tune and not to defend the rights of our citizens. I fail to see how Hicks can possibly maintain any sense of reality or hope for a future when he faces such an apparently all mighty and soul destroying persecution by governments which should be protecting all the worlds citizens from injustice rather than concentrating so much evil force against one individual!]]> 19 2007-03-24 01:23:31 2007-03-24 09:23:31 closed open in-war-is-the-enemy-a-criminal-or-just-an-enemy publish 0 0 post 31 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 203.26.16.66 2007-04-02 17:19:47 2007-04-03 01:19:47 1 0 0 God, life after death and everlasting life to eternity http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/05/13/god-life-after-death-and-everlasting-life-to-eternity/ Sun, 13 May 2007 11:45:32 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/05/13/god-life-after-death-and-everlasting-life-to-eternity/ These subjects interest me in that they seem to me to be all so far fetched as to be beyond belief.

Firstly, if one accepts that the latest astrological observations are factual and that the theory of evolution is the only theory, which stands up to any sort of scrutiny, then it is impossible to believe in divine creation and the interference in life of a divine entity.

I can understand why so many people like to believe that they will have a life after death, especially when they often have such a rough trot in this life. However; life for all creatures is a matter of reacting to the various stimuli that we are faced with from day to day, these experiences make us what we are and are really the very essence of life. We are faced with such things as love, hate, ambition, satisfaction, happiness and sadness and all these things are part of living, and they are what make those that believe wish to live after death in the hope that the second time around they will get only the good things that they missed out on the first time around. One can’t imagine there being procreation in the after life so what the hell are all these second rounders going to do, to live again they will have to go through all the experiences of their first innings without the consolation of eventually dying. Doesn’t sound such an attractive outlook to me and I’m old enough to be approaching the time for this ultimate event.

Finally, the matter of eternal life, this is a horrific thought, eternity is forever, such a state is impossible to imagine. If one has eternal life then it means that one can’t die so we don’t need to breath, eat, sleep, exercise, and copulate. Taking it to its extreme we wouldn’t need a body so we would really be extinct which is dead!

Some talk of inheriting the earth but the life of the earth is finite as we know so, what happens when the earth is destroyed and taking it further, what happens when the solar system is destroyed, as we are informed it will be.

Some talk of going to heaven but where is that? We have looked some 2 billion light years into space and found only more rocks and space, so heaven must be further away than 2 billion light years. If this is the case and people saw their favourite prophet rising into heaven, it means that the prophet would have been rising at well below the speed of light so he wouldn’t probably be outside the influence of our solar system yet. As to getting to the ultimate heaven and back, the earth wouldn’t be around by the time of the return.

To me it is so stupid to worry so much about an after life when there is so much that we can do to make the life for future inhabitants of the earth so much better and all we do is waste the time we have available to us trying to amass fortunes and possessions which when we die will be squandered away by after generations.

Why can’t we try to forget all the evils of the religions and concentrate on trying to give a good life to as many peoples of the world as possible? I’m sure that if the prophets could see the outcomes of the preachings, they would regret having ever preached. They mainly preached love and co-existence yet the heads of the various religions can justify murder, suppression, torture etc., all in the name of some man made god, we have progressed but have failed to overcome our basic fears and instincts.

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Just rambling http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/05/29/just-rambling/ Tue, 29 May 2007 11:58:57 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/05/29/just-rambling/

Positive people are resilient and bounce back whereas the negative people never win.

To be positive one has to have a few essential characteristics, one is to have hope, the other is to not expect too much from life and be pleased when things go well.

Negative people seem to have no hope, and even if things go well they tend to think that it is no more than they deserve and don’t appreciate their good fortune.

I’m aware that it is easy to say be hopeful but it seems that some are and some aren’t, for example, in situations of great stress such as concentration camps or sickness and the like, even though there may be many that are in similar conditions, some will be hopeful and look forward relief and others will give up almost immediately and go into depression. If relief comes, the positive ones will be grateful and the negative ones will think that it is as it should be.

I wonder if it is the case that positive people enjoy life more whereas negative people believe that they are entitled to things regardless of effort. Negative people also seem to be often picked on and bullied.

I also wonder if these characteristics are genetic or acquired through environmental events?]]>
21 2007-05-29 03:58:57 2007-05-29 11:58:57 closed open just-rambling publish 0 0 post 83 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 58.106.150.127 2007-06-03 23:59:12 2007-06-04 07:59:12 1 0 0 85 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com 124.183.63.18 2007-06-16 02:23:58 2007-06-16 10:23:58 1 0 0 88 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 203.26.16.68 2007-06-26 23:18:33 2007-06-27 07:18:33 cold to compute up there too?]]> 1 0 0
pseudo terrorism threat http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/08/03/pseudo-terrorism-threat/ Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:13:57 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/08/03/pseudo-terrorism-threat/ 22 2007-08-03 04:13:57 2007-08-03 12:13:57 closed open pseudo-terrorism-threat publish 0 0 post 99 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 203.26.16.67 2007-08-08 20:15:39 2007-08-09 04:15:39 1 0 0 100 geoff.patch@cea.com.au 203.26.16.67 2007-08-08 23:14:20 2007-08-09 07:14:20 1 0 0 101 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 139.168.115.44 2007-08-17 04:07:58 2007-08-17 12:07:58 1 0 1 161 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 58.168.42.146 2008-04-01 02:25:50 2008-04-01 10:25:50 1 0 1 158 girls2video@gmail.com http://darwin-core-draft-review-american-bukkake.cakeart.nx.cn/map.html 212.158.165.149 2008-03-31 02:46:42 2008-03-31 10:46:42 1 0 0 Howard's new brand of fairness and nationalism http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/08/21/23/ Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:52:27 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/08/21/23/ Howard statement setting out his plans for our future if we are stupid enough to re-elect his government at the next election. He opens the statement expressing a desire to "press on with aspiration and fairness", a most honourable aim but I fear that he isn't aware of how fairness works. To obtain fairness there must be a level playing field and the new Industrial laws do every thing possible to destroy a level playing field and create one sided competition. Howard claims to be a new system in the work force; however, I'm old enough to remember that when I first started work we had much the same situation and I believe that this was the catalyst that lead to the formation of the strong Trade Unions. Because the workers had been on the receiving end for so long, when the unions were formed they became very confrontational which in turn lead to the industrial problems of the 60's and 70's. If Howard wasn't so dogmatic in his desire to put the workers in their place, he would be wise enough to realize that a combined management/workforce is the only real way to go and obtain the fairness he expresses the desire to obtain. In the second paragraph, Howard talks of "the rising tide of prosperity lifting all boats" and balancing the climatic problems. I presume that the reference to "lifting all boats "is intended to indicate that all the boats would lift equally i.e. we would all share in the national wealth fairly, if not equally. Again you couldn't argue with this ambition; however, in the last ten years of the Howard government, the gap between the rich and the poor has widened and the state education system has been almost decimated. Money has been invested in the private religious schools, but this does nothing to encourage advancement of our democracy. Religious education is the last thing we want to unite our nation, secular education which teaches facts not fiction and faith, is the only way forward in a multinational/religion population. As to climate control, well for the first nine years of the Howard government it denied that global warming even existed and now that it has been forced to accept that global warming is a fact, it is only prepared to tackle the problem if it doesn't jeopardize the economy. Howard hasn't yet realized that the global warming is happening as a consequence of our prosperity and economic success, which, would indicate to any fool, that the only way to minimise, and turn back the trend of warming, is to reduce the race for more money, or to change the way in which that race is managed. The problem of changing the manufacturing methods to suit changes in conditions, is not a new one and has been done before, e.g. when the industrial revolution came in and we got the automobile and steam train, the black smiths as a trade suffered a set back. However, eventually, the black smiths all became mechanics and from too many smiths it became not enough mechanics. I'm sure that the change to clean power generation will be accomplished and some will have to change their profession but in the long run, we will end up with a shortage of skilled staff in the new processes. Howard then turns his attention to our national security and here he has been a disaster. The invasion of Iraq did more to give credibility to the terrorist movements than they would have believed possible, in fact they must have blessed the stupidity of the Bush, Blair, Howard alliance. Now we are involved in an illegal war with no obvious way out without admitting to the error of our first having invaded. Furthermore, because we have done so much damage in Iraq and caused so many casualties, we are obliged now to do what we can to put that country back on a level footing. Not an easy job when the country is divided by such strong sectarian beliefs. As for internal security, again the Howard government hasn't moved beyond the Hitler level of thinking. Masses of jack booted well armed stormtroopers and police just do not stop terror activities. Hitler gave the SS and the Gestapo unlimited powers, they could wipe out whole villages if they thought that they were involved in anti German activities. But the people that were involved in the terror (then known as patriots), were not intimidated and were still able to successfully carry out their anti German activities. By making us all fearful and afraid of our own shadows, the security of the nation is diminished. What we need is a vibrant population which is alert and watchful. I can remember that in the 2nd world war, the population didn't quiver in fear but got out and worked towards victory. Perhaps Howard should try to encourage people rather than frighten them. Unfortunately, the past ten years of lies and suppression of our civil liberties, has made me very sceptical of anything that Howard says. His behaviour as Prime Minister isn't what I'd call an uplifting period, there is more money around and whenever the government talks of its success it means that it has a budget surplus. It forgets to mention that the schools, universities, hospitals are all just about busted and the aboriginal affairs are a disgrace and shows that Howard hasn't improved his opinion of aborigines since his opposition to Marbo! Furthermore, he talks of security but our transport infrastructure is just about on its last legs. If we want to move our new tanks from Victoria to the Northern Territory, they would have to go by boat, the roads and rail facilities just couldn't bear the loads Actually, I reckon that the Howard years have been a time of regression and rundown and eventually all that budget surplus will have to be spent, plus more, to re-establish all the run down services that have occurred during this disasterous period.]]> 23 2007-08-21 03:52:27 2007-08-21 11:52:27 closed open 23 publish 0 0 post Costello rates ecomomy before morality, good for us? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/08/23/costello-rates-ecomomy-before-morality-good-for-us/ Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:31:02 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/08/23/costello-rates-ecomomy-before-morality-good-for-us/ Trade Practices Amendment (Small Business Protection) Bill 2007.  With the application of this bill, if one objects to a company using slave labour,or any other immoral practices, to make a profit, and as a consequence of that objection the company loses money, it is possible for that company to sue you for all you've got and still not give up the use of the practice used to make the profit.. A truly Christian attitude towards economics and morality. Thank goodness that we have a good Christian government, it is to be hoped that they are re-elected so that they can press ahead with their corruption of all that was so proudly proclaimed as Australian in the interest of sound economic management! ]]> 24 2007-08-23 03:31:02 2007-08-23 11:31:02 closed open costello-rates-ecomomy-before-morality-good-for-us publish 0 0 post Sydney APEC-ed comment http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/09/12/25/ Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:24:09 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2007/09/12/25/ Sydney has been APEC-ed. It was encouraging to hear that someone else had noted with alarm the copycat gestapo strutting around Sydney intimidating the citizens and taking over our city. It is worth noting that the gestapo in occupied Europe had unrestrained power to take what ever action they considered necessary to stop the terrorist ( freedom fighter in those days ), they even wiped out whole villages to obtain their ends all to no avail. They would wipe out a village and next week another train would be blown up or convoy attacked, terror tactics will not stop terrorist. However, such tactics seem to intimidate law abiding citizens as witnessed by the cowering of the Australian public since the world politicians have used 9/11 to induce unreasonable fear into their people. Howard and Ruddock are the main offenders but I fear that a change of government won't bring about a restoration of our freedoms and liberties.]]> 25 2007-09-12 02:24:09 2007-09-12 10:24:09 closed open 25 publish 0 0 post the ignored cause of global warming and pollution http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2008/03/26/the-ignored-cause-of-global-warming-and-pollution/ Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:19:12 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2008/03/26/the-ignored-cause-of-global-warming-and-pollution/ Greens blog and a blog in The Age which were mainly based on the provision of housing into the future. When reading these articles I began to wonder if any one had thought about why we were in such dire straights regarding over crowding of our cities and pollution every where and global warming. To me the answer is quite straight forward, we have assumed a " better than you attitude " towards all other creatures and life forms on this planet whereas we are really just another animal that has to live within the confines and parameters set by our natural environment. We are prepared to accept that other animal forms can over breed and destroy their environment but we seem to think that we can keep on breeding without any regard to our effect on the environment for, not only ourselves but for all other life forms. We are prepared to cull other creatures that we consider are over breeding but we don't apply the same logic to our own over breeding I notice that the Greens talk of halving the carbon output of each person but if one thinks about this it is only a temporary solution. If one of the many godheads we have created, could perform a miracle and halve the output of every individual tomorrow, the pollution would be back to todays figure in 50 years because of the doubling of the population and there will also then be the need for added space to accommodate the extra population. Nature will solve this problem in its own way, we will eventually have a cull to satisfy the ambitions of our political and religious leaders but, with the destructive powers of todays weaponry, this could well be an act of overkill which would wipe out all human and possibly all other life forms. Accordingly, I think it would be better to devise a more acceptable means of population control. If we could negate the powers of the various religions we should be able to accept that death isn't a punishment and is really a part of life which enables life to update and refresh itself. Once we accept this fact, we can then look at controlling life and accepting that some people wish to die, others don't wish to breed, other life forms are born monsters and should not be kept alive to satisfy the selfish desires of some frustrated woman rather than being allowed to die as would be the way of nature. There are many ways in which the population could be humanely regulated. Furthermore, not all women want to devote their lives to children and raising families so they should be discouraged from just having babies at a late time of life to be able to say they are a "full woman". Being a mother is actually a full time and very worthwhile station in life. Rather than having part time mothers that farm out their offspring we should encourage those women that really lust for motherhood, and would devote their whole waking hours to their children, to have children. As we know, in the present social system, those people that have lots of children are usually hard pressed to give those children the necessities of life. The system should be changed to ensure that good and willing parents are supported and are in a position to raise the future generation to the best available standards. And at the end of the parenting period, there should be a national pension scheme for these people to enable them to retire and enjoy all the life pleasures enjoyed by the career population. I'm sure that if we could rid ourselves of all these gods and religions, we could devise a system whereby we could stabilize the world population at a level that would enable us to make full use of all the beauties of this world without destroying it and also live in peace. The latter would I think, require men to give up their sense of being the top dog, and there would have to be an acceptance of the fact that sex and sexuality are not the criteria by which you can make reasonable, logical and long-term decisions. I wonder if we will ever generally develop a brain that appreciates that what is in our best interests isn't always in the best interest of the future generations and others?]]> 26 2008-03-26 02:19:12 2008-03-26 10:19:12 closed open the-ignored-cause-of-global-warming-and-pollution publish 0 0 post 153 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://www.athoughtdrift.com/gemmell 124.168.222.143 2008-03-26 04:08:26 2008-03-26 12:08:26 1 0 0 155 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 58.168.42.146 2008-03-30 01:45:39 2008-03-30 09:45:39 1 0 1 167 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://www.athoughtdrift.com/gemmell 124.168.222.143 2008-04-04 00:50:48 2008-04-04 08:50:48 1 0 0 Comments on Interview with Hofstadter which relates to the development of AI http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2008/06/18/comments-on-httptalforum2orghofstadter_interview-which-relates-to-the-development-of-ai/ Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:54:38 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=28 this interview with Hofstadte was interesting and that I should read it, which I did and then comment back to him as set out below. I was quite flattered and surprised to have my grandson recommend that I should put my comments out as a blog, my comments are really my own thoughts derived from a long experience of life but not a really good education. compared with what is available today. Here is my email with my thoughts on the interview - Well I read the artical and some of it was in line with my thinking, without the advantage of the cogitations of these great minds, but a lot of it I thought was rather pointless! I explain as set out hereunder. 1/ I could find nowhere in the interview where the symbol AI is defined? Possibly this is from a lack of my knowledge of modern things. 2/ I have always thought that I'd live on only from my reactions to other people during my life time. I suppose one could also put my genetic make-up in this category but the effect of my genes is lessened with each generation. As expressed before, I have never been able to accept the claim to everlasting life having the one form throughout. 3/ What is the point of being able to reproduce the brain operation of an individual as a piece of soft wear? The circuitry of the brain is changing continuously with the experiences of the associated body, so what is the use of the electronic imaging obtained if it isn't associated with the same body. Do they propose to take out the soft tissue of the brain and replace it with a chip? I get the impression that these people are conning pseudo intellectuals into thinking a lot about this as though it were deep and important science whereas it is just ravings of misguided scientists that have been sucked in by reading too much science fiction in their youth. At no point do they explain how they will experience everlasting life from having this chip, imaging their brain function, stuck away in someones drawer after they themselves have died? There is absolutely no good reason in imaging brain functions as a means of obtaining everlasting life since the brain in a bottle isn't my idea of life. 4/ All these deliberations seem to have missed the point that the environment around us is always changing and the effects of the changes of the environment on our bodies has been the basis for the evolution of our brains. If there is no body housing this brain, then how will it react to external changes. If this electronic brain is housed in a robotic body that will experience environmental changes the new requirements of the robotic body will be not the same as our soft tissue bodies? 5/ We are well aware that the universe is continuously changing and that the life of the solar system is finite so it would appear far more intelligent for these great thinkers to think about how they can understand the working of the brain we have and how mental illnesses can be cured and brain defects corrected, rather than getting their knickers in a knot over saving their wishy-washy deep thoughts onto hard drive? The comments of the readers of the interview really prove to me that these people are really up themselves ( excuse the expression ), although a couple of the comments did seem to wish to say they thought that the whole thing was rubbish. I suppose they were frightened of appearing less than brilliant if they dared to question such a great thinker! The great interlectual who made the comment that the interviewee was one of the 100 greatest mind of our time was talking absolute rubbish! What had the interviewee accomplished of such great significance, his best seller was no Shakespeare or even an Enid Blyton! I feel sure that I must have missed something here because it seems implausible that some one of obvious ability can spend so much time in deep thought about something of so little consequence, surely this Hofstadter has made his reputation doing something of relevance to life? As for the other authers mentioned such as Ray Kurzweil, they seem to be also wasting time on useless experimentation which has no practical application. I agree with you that the interview was interesting but I don't think that we ended up with the same appreciation of the genius of the persons involved in the interview! These were the ravings to which my grandson said publish my thoughts with suggestions of things that I had not seemingly taken into account in my rantings, his reply is set out hereunder-
AI = Artificial Intelligence. AI is "achieved" when it passes the Turing
test - that is where it can have a conversation with a person without the
person knowing that it is a machine.

As for 3/ I believe that's what the guy being interviewed is saying -
transferal of mind to computer is the destruction of mankind itself.

These are postulations and thoughts, predictions for what the future might
hold. You can never predict the social ramifications, can you imagine what
the church would say if all of a sudden you could throw away your body when
you got old and live eternally on the internet?

As for 4/ Maybe the whole POINT of transfering conciousness to a robot or
computer entity is to see what it's like? If you've experienced life in your
soft tissue body for the last 80 years, maybe you'd like to know what it's
like to be a robot. There would be certain advantages which our soft bodies
can not provide (diving, going into outerspace, extreme heat/cold, seeing in
different spectrums (how pretty would that be!) etc)

I don't think you give sci-fi writers enough cred. These people shape our
world. I do not kid you. Submarines were written about before they were
developed. Space ships, space stations, aliens, AI, computers - all from
sci-fi. Sure, a lot of it doesn't come to pass, but a lot of scientists are
sci-fi readers, "Imagination is more powerful than knowledge" (albert
einstein).

And anyway, here you are, with a pace maker, telling me whats the point of
transferring your conciousness to a computer - what happens when they
replace your arm with a bionic one, then the other, then both your legs. At
what point is it different to having your conciousness transferred to a
computer? At what point do you say: "No, if I got that replaced by a
mechanical bit then I would no longer be human" ? So long as you could
experience the world around you, maybe even MORE richly than when you were a
lump of meat, you'd say you were human because of your thoughts.

I don't think thinking about tech is a waste of time and unproductive,
shaping future ideas is a hell of a lot easier than changing ingrained ones,
that's why religions teach children.

An interesting read anyway.

Here's a good philosophical question for you - Say they invented
teleportation where all of your molecules are recreated at the other end,
exact image, thoughts and all, and then your original body is destroyed.
Then one day there is a malfunction, and the original body isn't destroyed.
Is it murder to then kill that living breathing entity? To them they're
alive, they're not connected to this other person, albeit an exact copy.
To my Grandsons memo I commented as follows- I'm pleased that you found my comments interesting, I was afraid that you would dismiss them as the rantings of a doddering old fool! On reading your comments I found out the meaning of AI, thanks. It also gave me second thoughts about the gains from having my intelligence transferred to a robbot. Imagine the wonder of being able to set out on a couple of light years trip and actually get there without having aged, although I may have rusted up a bit! I realized that the actual interviewee was not really accepting the concept of having his brain functions transferred to a chip and getting everlasting life, I was just surprised that there were so many people that were involved in what seems to be an exercise that offers no actual resolution. With regard to your ethical problem, if teleporting takes place and the two bodies end up co existing, then they are from that point onward two identities. I think this way because I have always thought that this idea of cloning to provide spare parts is absolutely ridiculous. If you cloned me and then let my clone live until I wanted the spare part; then the clone would develop as I had and, since I've always been a selfish bugger, by the time I wanted my spare parts my clone would have developed to the extent that he would laugh as he watched me die! Well the same would apply to the two bodies, as soon as they exist separately, then they would experience different things which would develop their minds/brains differently so they would immediately start to form separate identities and be different people. Sounds like manufactured identical twins! I would pose you a question, what if the teleporting malfunctioned and both of the bodies ended up only partially complete, would the body that didn't initiate the teleporting be able to sue the other body for damages? If we ever decide that we are to continue our human knowledge as this planet dies, then the only solution is to pack all the human experiences into a hard shell body such as a robot and launch it off to some other space site which can support it. If it is a real hard body, it won't need oxygen but oil and rust inhibitors. However, to extend the human experience, the robot would have to carry the history of how the intelligence it has was developed, but what other planet would want to have our intelligence and experiences forced upon it? I really think that all our dreams are just that, and in the best interest of evolution, we will have to end when our planet ends. I don't like the idea of posting my thoughts as a blog because I think that they only seem to invite spam mail and any one else that reads them will not have your bias towards my ramblings. The last comment on this matter is as set out from my Grandson, and I now seem to be at an end to my immediate thoughts on this subject; however, it is certainly something that I have found a challenge to my consideration between the values of the past ages and modern thinking.
Someone here at work pointed out exactly what you did - the teleportation
thing is irrelevant, the point is that a clone was created. So it's not
teleportation per se, but cloning that could create scenarios like this. 

A sci-fi book I read had a "global consiousness" which was basically
someones brain uploaded to a computer. But the computer was shared by many.
That individuals conciousness stayed around whilst their children were
alive, and maybe their grand children, but eventually they grew detached and
just faded away into the "global conciousness". It was an interesting idea
anyway.

As for putting these on your blog - I really think you should. It doesn't
"invite" spam, they aren't people that read it and go "hey I'll spam that
up", it's a robot (heh!) that searches the entire web, finds sites that have
a "Post Comment" and then posts up a spam comment. The idea is that 1 out of
a million people will click the link or approve the post. So they spam out
10 million of those, and get a couple of clicks through. It's horrible and a
scourge on the internet, but don't worry, they reckon 50% of the traffic on
the internet is spam.
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28 2008-06-18 03:54:38 2008-06-18 11:54:38 closed open comments-on-httptalforum2orghofstadter_interview-which-relates-to-the-development-of-ai publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1214954223 _edit_last 1
Carbon emmissions trading scheme http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2008/07/04/carbon-emmissions-trading-scheme/ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:24:11 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=31 Sydney Herald Garnott report and was struck by the seeming lack of understanding of how the scheme should be paid for and also the unforgiving nature of the problem and the consequences of not doing enough to limit its finality if we fail to meet the demands of a solution. if such a solution is still possible! We are always talking of the need to implement the user pays principle but it never seems to apply when it is the really rich and greedy that will be asked to pay. If we go back to primary school arithmetic we can easily work out how it is that the cost of any trading scheme will impact most on the less able to pay and this will have the least effect on the pollution problem. We all need a basic amount to survive which can be set at say, $300 per week, this will meet the food and yearly bills for a family of 4 say. I am not an expert so I don't have the exact figures, but let us assume that this is the case. Now this figure applies to any family to provide the basic living requirements and therefore any surplus is used to raise that living standard to incorporate more luxury items. Garnott talks of giving tax relief and social services to help the less able to afford more costs but this will not reduce the pollution and carbon use. A few dollars to the less well off will maybe help them to survive but it will not impress the rich by one iota so they will grumble but, simply go on using the resources with gay abandon! To really make people cut back it is necessary to make the onus on all more or less equal which means making the more well off feel the pain of the increased charges. I believe that to make the community equally share the burden of saving the planet, it is necessary to make the ones that do the most polluting pay the most for the clean-up. Going back to my original statement, it takes $300/week to survive so any one living on this basic standard will have a minimal effect in pollution. As we have the more affluent spending, they will be doing more polluting and when we get to the people with a real surplus of money spending their surplus on yachts, sporty cars, speed boats, international holidays etc, they are really doing a lot of polluting. Accordingly, it is only fair that the richer the people the more they pay towards the carbon emmissions trading scheme. When I was young after the end of the second world war in the UK we had taxation which was graded to make the ones that took most out of the country pay most back through taxation, top rate was 19s6d in the pound. Now we have got to the stage where the top income earners pay the least percentage of their income in tax and moan most if they have to pay more. At the same time they are often wasting the money on such things as transporting polo horses around the world for a game here and there. It seems to me that we are now faced with a global problem which could well see the end of all life on this planet and we can't now afford these greedy and selfish idiots that think that the destruction of the environment will only effect the poor and they will be able to buy their way out of the situation. If we fail to control the pollution, it will kill us all! I suggest that we again reconstitute a taxation system which makes the rich pay their way and feel the pain of survival. This is an almost impossible solution to this problem because these CEO's and the like are not really interested in anything but their own careless lifestyle so if Australia were to impose a more equitable tax system they would simply move off shore and continue to hasten the their own destruction together with the destruction of the rest of us! If we are really going to save the world we have to have international agreement to limit the greed of these executives and thee like so that if they give themselves $10000/week they pay a greater proportion of it back into the cost of keeping a viable environment. In the long term it is in their best interests to feel the pain like the rest of us! As I've said in previous posts, probably unread, the existence of the planet isn't really influenced one way or the other should life survive or fail, so it is up to us to do what we can to ensure that life goes on if we really want this to be the case!]]> 31 2008-07-04 04:24:11 2008-07-04 12:24:11 closed open carbon-emmissions-trading-scheme publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1215174251 _edit_last 1 Greenhouse effect and transformity relationship? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2008/07/13/greenhouse-effect-and-transformity-relationship/ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:49:35 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=32 Sean Seefried. I have read the article by Sean and found it most interesting and easy to follow, I'm not able to comment on the actual figures used but the concept isn't surprising. However, I did find the article a little hard to relate to the immediate problem of global warming. If one acknowledges the transformity to obtain solar cells or wind turbines, it would indicate to me that we have to gamble that the extra dirty power must be used to produce the clean power as soon as possible no matter what.  As the article points out, solar radiation is, to all intents and purposes, an infinite constant energy input to the earth. We can't use it up and we can't increase its input, nor can we stop it. The solid, dense energy sources laid down by the suns input over millions of years, has been discovered and used in a big way since the industrial revolution, and, unfortunately, use of these fossil fuels to produce power also releases the gases removed from the atmosphere when they were laid down. The release of these gases seems to be our main problem, I'm no expert but it appears to me that we are again producing the atmosphere required by the dinosaurs some millions of years ago, not too good for modern homosapians! If we are to reverse the production of the greenhouse gases in time to save life as we know it, I would suggest that we need to modify our use of power produced using dirty fuels. This could be done by making sure that the power was used to produce the clean power generators rather that the rubbish that we present produce. I wonder how much power is presently wasted in producing weapons to further pollute the atmosphere, how much power is used to produce all the junk mail that is put into letter boxes every day, etc, etc. I would also think that we would have to get over this mad drive to have growth. No one seems to know why we need the growth other than to make profits for some few so called entrepreneurs, as a consequence we keep on populating and needing more energy etc but for no purpose. As a result of this feverish population expansion, we like any other animal species will eventually reach pest proportions and, like for the other animals, we will die out. It is time that we started to use our brain power to work out just what is the future aims of humanity. This could well mean controlling the population to a sustainable quantity and then also deciding on how we can make life for all the members of the population exciting, enjoyable  and satisfying. Surely it must be possible to rid ourselves of doctrines inherited from thousands of years ago and start to accept responsibility for our own future. If we don't we are doomed, I think personally that we are too late already!]]> 32 2008-07-13 03:49:35 2008-07-13 11:49:35 closed open greenhouse-effect-and-transformity-relationship publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1215949943 _edit_last 1 Science/Religion Defined http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2008/09/17/sciencereligion-defined/ Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:00:27 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=33 Chris Keene regarding the actions of Prof. Michael Reiss and in most of the comments was struck by the continuous reference to religion and science. Evidently, the Prof is also a priest with a religion, I presume a Christian religion and these references and Prof's belonging to a religion seem to have bemused the readers into thinking that science and religion are comparable in some way and both should be taught in our education facilities. All the commentators seem to overlooked the fact that, whereas, there is only science which is an explanation of all happenings in the universe, there are many religions all of which are an effort to explain how we got here and where we are going after we die by making one or several gods responsible for our existence. As there is only Science it is possible to prove or disprove any theories of the existance of the earth and all that is there upon it. However, since there are so many religions, it isn't possible to prove anything before one proves which religion is right. As all religions are based on absolute unquestioning faith, none of them will ever accept that it is wrong so it isn't possible to prove anything one way or the other. Consequently, it is wrong to teach any religion in an educational establishment, if anything, it should be more the responsibility of education establishments to ensure that its students are taught to question all things and not rely on just an acceptance of the teachers or their parents etc.]]> 33 2008-09-17 04:00:27 2008-09-17 12:00:27 open open sciencereligion-defined publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1222085677 _edit_last 1 euthanasia http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2008/11/19/euthanasia/ Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:03:03 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=40 Adele Horine, Saturday Morning Herald wrote an article on this subject which seemed to me to be more about the problems created for the relatives than the wishes of the afflicted person. All the problems that Adele made comment about are accepted but, I am now about my 80's, one year off infact and my wife is of similar age, and we don't want to become a mass of heaving flesh that has no realization of any of the surrounding beauties of life. I can't see how they can ever effect a cure of alzheimers desease since it is a destruction of the brain cells that are ones memory. It may be possible to reverse the deterioration of the brain but it is hard to imagine a situation where you can reimplant the memories experienced in the past. Consequently, if I forgot my wife and children and grandchildren and great grandchildren, the recovery of my brain could only mean that I could again learn who these people are. However, they couldn't reimplant the memories of the experiences that I have had with these people so, they would never regain the closeness they have at this time. If I have made such a bad job of raising my family that they are unable to amicably sort out my estate then they deserve all the problems that they inherit. I like to consider that we have made a relatively good job of raising our off spring and that they will be more interested in continuing to live as a cohesive family rather than fighting over the pittance that we will leave. I would like to have access to the drugs that would allow me to terminate my life with dignaty and not have my wife of some 60 years left with the responsibility of having to see me turn into a useless burden, and I certainly don't want to see my wife submitted to the indignaty of becoming a drooling lump of flesh. What happens to the estate isn't really relavent to this problem, it is the dignity of the persons that feel that they are turning into the living dead. Iam the total of my memories and experiences and without these I am dead! I cannot accept that I have a right to life but I do think that I have a right to decide when I am ready to die. The course of nature will determine if I am allowed to survive and it has nothing to do with any right I may think that I have to be allowed to live, I can work hard and fail and, alternatively, I can loaf around and make no effort to get on and end up a millionaire, we have no rights only a hand to play to the best of our ability  with the luck we inherit. I have no more right to life than a child born with aids in Africa but I have had better luck so have enjoyed a far better and happier life. I find it most annoying to have people tell me that I have to live because it will enhance their prospects of getting to heaven and inheriting eternal life, but they don't want to pay taxes and donate their time to really helping people that should be able to live but through circumstances beyond their control have little chance of living a happy life. It would be different if I were to propose that the rules should be changed to make it mandatory that people be euthanazed when they have dementia, then they would have something to worry about and it would be me imposing my system on them instead of vice versa. What we want is freedom of choice with controls to ensure that the idea isn't corrupted to make it more easy for " rotten " families to get their filthy hands on estates sooner than would normally be the case]]> 40 2008-11-19 03:03:03 2008-11-19 11:03:03 open open euthanasia publish 0 0 post _edit_last 1 _edit_lock 1227092583 the greatest injustice of the 20th century http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/01/30/the-greatest-injustice-of-the-20th-century/ Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:36:41 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=42 Spanish judge will accept a case that the Israelis have broken international law and committed war crimes in their attacks on Gaza I read this with some interest because I was around when the UN confiscated the Palestinian lands and the peoples property, infact reduced them to being non citizens of any place and gave these lands to a mass of cruel and savage European Jews that had some how survived the Nazi prison camps. These Jews had not only survived but had very successfully learned most of the Gestapo practices. To make matters worse for the Palestinians, the UN allowed the Israelis to be armed in a manner which Adolf Hitler would have envied whilst imposing an arms embargo on the Palestinians. Then when a Palestinian got annoyed when he or she saw the Israeli occupiers using their propery such as houses and fields etc and threw a stone at the Israelis, the Israelis successfully convinced the world that the Palestinian actions amounted to terrorism and they were justified in, not only killing the stone thrower, but, following good old Nazi practice, they had a right to shoot or destroy the home of every one around that person. It appears to me that Adolf Hitler would be proud of the Israeli State but amazed that it was Jewish. He shouldn't be too surprise because as he had the mad idea that the blond, blue eyed German was the super race, and the Jews have the same mad idea that they are the special people of god. A god that they invented and which, funnily enough, has been adopted by their Muslim opposition. Unfortunately, this god devised by the ancient Jews, is a jealous, cruel and evil god as recognised by a group of Jews some 2000 years ago. I was around when the extent of the Germans cruelty was revealed in 1945 and I was sickened to think that, so called civilized people could sink to such depravity. I hoped that I would never see such disgusting behaviour again, so imagine my horror when I now see the Israelis doing exactly as the Germans had done to them. It would appear that,for the Jews, the only crime that the Nazis committed was to mistreat the Jews, if the Nazis had stuck with just the Gypsys, Slavs and homosexuals, then the Nazis wouldn't have been such bad fellows Over the years the Israelis have suffered some inconvenience from home made rockets being fired into the land they have occupied but this hardly justifies their killing 1500 Palistinians, 800 of whom were innocent children and others would have been, in a majority of cases, innocent women and men. This is a typical Gestapo reaction which the Jews have obviously learned well. What I can't understand is how the rest of the world can stand by whilst a virtually unarmed group of people are attacked by the most sofisticated armed force in the Middle East, surely, the battle is a bit one sided? At the end of the last war I felt sorry for the Jews and Gypsys and Slavs and other groups that had suffered at the hands of the Nazi madness, I realized that they were basically just like all other human beings but they had been brain washed into following a religion devised some 4000 years ago and which is now just a lot of rubbish, as are all the other religions. However, I now believe that the religions are actually evil and a threat to the continuation of civilization. When one reads back through history, it becomes obvious that these acts of injustice don't get forgotten quickly and in, maybe 400 or 500 years the Palistinians will be on top and they will then exact " their pound of flesh" from the then citizens of Israel who will actually by that time, feel that they are being unfairly targeted, note the Northern Ireland conflict and the Serbian conflicts based on the actions of the Ottoman Empire a few hundred years back. I would like to see the Spanish Judge investigate not only the actions of the Israelis but also the actions of the United Nations back in 1948 when it somehow came to the conclusion that it could legitimately dispossess the Palestinians of the lands that they had worked and peacefully lived on for thousands of years. If there was a case for compensating the European Jews that had suffered so much under the Hitler regeme, then they should have been given a part of Germany, such as the Rhine Valley or Prussia. I think that they may well have considered this but they didn't want a Jewish country in " their own back yard". Unless the United Nations addresses the initial injustice done back in 1948, or at least explains how it made the decision and on what basis, then I can't see how there can be a long term solution to the existing state of affairs. It is my opinion that the reunification of Palestine, including Israel, must form the basis for any solution to this problem and the Government of such a reconstituted State must abide by the UN charters and have a secular govermnent to reunite the nation. After all it shouldn't be that hard, the Jews and the Palestinians are ethnically the same people!]]> 42 2009-01-30 03:36:41 2009-01-30 11:36:41 open open the-greatest-injustice-of-the-20th-century publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1233315401 _edit_last 1 487 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 124.168.198.204 2009-02-12 03:29:33 2009-02-12 11:29:33 1 0 0 the great unjustice of the 20th century, part 2 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/02/18/the-great-unjustice-of-the-20th-century-part-2/ Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:03:47 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=44 44 2009-02-18 03:03:47 2009-02-18 11:03:47 open open the-great-unjustice-of-the-20th-century-part-2 publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1234955027 _edit_last 1 489 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 124.168.206.77 2009-03-04 21:35:03 2009-03-05 05:35:03 1 0 0 the religious war in palestine http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/03/11/the-religious-war-in-palestine/ Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:03:36 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=46 46 2009-03-11 02:03:36 2009-03-11 10:03:36 open open the-religious-war-in-palestine publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1236765816 _edit_last 1 490 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 124.168.213.219 2009-03-16 03:26:53 2009-03-16 11:26:53 1 0 0 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=48 Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:33:44 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=48 48 2009-03-20 01:33:44 2009-03-20 09:33:44 open open palestineisrael-conflict draft 0 0 post _edit_lock 1237546202 _edit_last 1 who believes in God? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/06/24/who-believes-in-god/ Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:12:40 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=50 50 2009-06-24 04:12:40 2009-06-24 12:12:40 open open who-believes-in-god publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1260782492 _edit_last 1 1331 geoff.patch@cea.com.au 220.245.209.177 2009-09-24 16:39:10 2009-09-25 00:39:10 1 0 0 1333 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 58.168.46.242 2009-09-28 04:05:43 2009-09-28 12:05:43 1 0 1 caring? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/07/24/caring/ Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:22:16 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=52 52 2009-07-24 04:22:16 2009-07-24 12:22:16 open open caring publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1248438136 _edit_last 1 1329 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://www.athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 220.245.209.177 2009-09-23 23:48:16 2009-09-24 07:48:16 1 0 0 1330 geoff.patch@cea.com.au 220.245.209.177 2009-09-24 15:16:50 2009-09-24 23:16:50 1 0 0 1332 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com 58.168.46.242 2009-09-28 02:38:15 2009-09-28 10:38:15 1 0 0 Populate and Die ! http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/10/16/populate-and-die/ Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:40:25 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=54 54 2009-10-16 02:40:25 2009-10-16 10:40:25 open open populate-and-die publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1260782454 _edit_last 1 rich private v poor public schools http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/10/22/rich-private-v-poor-public-schools/ Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:35:11 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=56 56 2009-10-22 03:35:11 2009-10-22 11:35:11 open open rich-private-v-poor-public-schools publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1260782598 _edit_last 1 1336 geoff.patch@cea.com.au 220.245.209.177 2009-11-03 22:37:10 2009-11-04 06:37:10 1 0 0 the law and justice? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/11/01/the-law-and-justice/ Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:10:12 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=58 58 2009-11-01 03:10:12 2009-11-01 11:10:12 open open the-law-and-justice publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1257327157 _edit_last 1 The Law and Justice http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/11/04/the-law-and-justice-2/ Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:11:54 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=61 61 2009-11-04 02:11:54 2009-11-04 10:11:54 open open the-law-and-justice-2 publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1257329516 _edit_last 1 1396 geoff.patch@cea.com.au 220.245.209.177 2010-06-30 19:52:16 2010-07-01 03:52:16 1 0 0 what is education? http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2009/12/14/what-is-education/ Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:33:41 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=63 63 2009-12-14 02:33:41 2009-12-14 10:33:41 open open what-is-education publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1263636690 _edit_last 1 1342 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 124.168.219.23 2010-01-15 20:01:16 2010-01-16 04:01:16 1 0 0 1343 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 58.164.66.230 2010-01-16 02:58:46 2010-01-16 10:58:46 1 0 1 1344 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 124.168.204.93 2010-01-16 19:49:00 2010-01-17 03:49:00 1 0 0 1345 tyler@athoughtadrift.com http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad 124.184.245.210 2010-01-23 02:13:22 2010-01-23 10:13:22 1 1344 1 Population Growth http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2010/01/25/population-growth/ Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:07:36 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=66 This Day Tonight program on the 25th January, had a piece on this subject which I feel inclined to comment upon as follows. It would appear that the population problem is really matter of having an available area for expansion whilst keeping the needed space to support that population within the confines of a finite fixed area without destroying the environment for all other life forms. We have evolved to a degree where we are now the first life form that has the option of controlling our reproduction or breeding our selves to extinction. Mr Rudd has formed the opinion that we will be better off with a bigger population. This is based on the impossible belief that we can have everlasting growth; which would need everlasting growth of population. Since there is only a finite space available, adoption of a policy of everlasting growth will inevitably lead to our extinction as a species! It is not now necessary for human beings to breed flat out to obtain the survival of the species so we should now be working out what we do want from life and how we can balance our breeding to obtain this state, in balance with the rest of the environment, such that we can have a long term future for ourselves and the rest of the life forms! When I say long term I mean thousands of years not fifty years, one gets the impression that our world leaders feel that they only have responsibility for looking after the events happening within their life span whereas I would hope that, such a magnificent life form as we have evolved into would be able, by application of this powerful brain, ensure that life goes on as long as our planet will support it. Frankly, I don't think that the world is yet ready to address the problem of over population, they have too many religious and personal freedoms hang-ups and not enough responsibility commitments.  It will need a realization that there is a fast approaching apocalypse to jolt the masses into a state of action and this may well be too late!]]> 66 2010-01-25 20:07:36 2010-01-26 04:07:36 open open population-growth publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1264479466 _edit_last 1 Survival of Life on Earth http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2010/02/01/survival-of-life-on-earth/ Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:42:51 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=70 70 2010-02-01 03:42:51 2010-02-01 11:42:51 open open survival-of-life-on-earth publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1265024573 _edit_last 1 1346 Molly@gmx.de http://www.hypnosis-sleep.com/ 87.110.211.112 2010-02-01 12:48:06 2010-02-01 20:48:06 0 0 0 Australian Constitution Needs to be updated. http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2010/04/18/australian-constitution-needs-to-be-updated/ Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:57:58 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=72 72 2010-04-18 04:57:58 2010-04-18 12:57:58 open open australian-constitution-needs-to-be-updated publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1271845389 _edit_last 1 1387 Igou1428@gmail.com http://www.healthts.net/ 69.197.158.226 2010-06-17 22:04:46 2010-06-18 06:04:46 0 0 0 1394 geoff.patch@cea.com.au 220.245.209.177 2010-06-30 19:39:26 2010-07-01 03:39:26 1 0 0 Australian Constitution needs to be updated http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2010/04/21/australian-constitution-needs-to-be-updated-2/ Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:17:21 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=75 75 2010-04-21 03:17:21 2010-04-21 11:17:21 open open australian-constitution-needs-to-be-updated-2 publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1271848643 _edit_last 1 ETS application http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2010/05/26/ets-application/ Wed, 26 May 2010 11:34:53 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=77 77 2010-05-26 03:34:53 2010-05-26 11:34:53 open open ets-application publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1274873695 _edit_last 1 Mines Super Profit Tax http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2010/06/04/mines-super-profit-tax/ Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:06:28 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=79 79 2010-06-04 05:06:28 2010-06-04 13:06:28 open open mines-super-profit-tax publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1275656790 _edit_last 1 1390 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://www.athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 220.245.209.177 2010-06-22 23:16:23 2010-06-23 07:16:23 1 0 0 1392 Battuello813@justdoeet.com http://www.1moviefree.com 189.59.64.141 2010-06-24 20:00:28 2010-06-25 04:00:28 spam 0 0 1388 Kotula43@cs.harvard.edu http://algarve.visitors.gd 117.240.230.69 2010-06-22 09:10:18 2010-06-22 17:10:18 spam 0 0 1391 Raven6@harvard.edu http://westpalmbeach.visitors.gd 114.143.12.28 2010-06-23 05:25:31 2010-06-23 13:25:31 spam 0 0 1398 lakpad28@gmail.coml http://www.dirty4money.com/ 115.98.246.22 2010-07-02 03:31:16 2010-07-02 11:31:16 spam 0 0 1393 Recio@gmail.com http://www.firstlalimos.com 85.185.3.205 2010-06-28 11:43:50 2010-06-28 19:43:50 spam 0 0 1395 ala234l@gawab.com http://genericwpthemes.com 94.142.134.213 2010-06-30 19:43:04 2010-07-01 03:43:04 spam 0 0 the greatest injustice of the 20th century http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/2010/06/09/the-greatest-injustice-of-the-20th-century-2/ Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:40:59 +0000 http://athoughtadrift.com/grandad/?p=81 81 2010-06-09 03:40:59 2010-06-09 11:40:59 open open the-greatest-injustice-of-the-20th-century-2 publish 0 0 post _edit_lock 1276083660 _edit_last 1 1389 gemmell@athoughtadrift.com http://www.athoughtadrift.com/gemmell 220.245.209.177 2010-06-22 23:08:46 2010-06-23 07:08:46 1 0 0 1400 z1rider4ever@msn.co.uk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Z1 81.169.171.105 2010-07-04 17:26:50 2010-07-05 01:26:50 spam 0 0 1397 bmwrider4evar@yahoo.com http://forums.bmwmoal.com/member.php?u=322 173.244.197.211 2010-07-02 02:14:43 2010-07-02 10:14:43 spam 0 0 1399 wozoum@mskvgy.com http://elvebprfapfp.com/ 80.182.30.34 2010-07-03 11:19:53 2010-07-03 19:19:53 fwdyfmcgjpwj, [url=http://yioqjvejwcwf.com/]yioqjvejwcwf[/url], [link=http://qhmwhfbqxvlz.com/]qhmwhfbqxvlz[/link], http://xshzlhnxfptn.com/]]> spam 0 0